PlayStation 3 Backwards Compatibility Update: From Russia With Love

You can access the full list using the 360 PS3 BC link at the top of the page.

Key

  • new The game is new to this list because I have purchased or borrowed it or it has been added to the Xbox 360 BC list.
  • updated The game was already on my list but its status has changed.

Backwards Compatibility Lists

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PlayStation 3 (PS3) 60Gb PAL:

No known issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
new From Russia With Love SLES 53553   3.15

PlayStation 3 Backwards Compatibility Update: The Fast and the Furious

You can access the full list using the 360 PS3 BC link at the top of the page.

Key

  • new The game is new to this list because I have purchased or borrowed it or it has been added to the Xbox 360 BC list.
  • updated The game was already on my list but its status has changed.

Backwards Compatibility Lists

PlayStation 3 logo

PlayStation 3 (PS3) 60Gb PAL:

No known issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
new The Fast and the Furious SLES 54483 widescreen 3.15

PlayStation 3 Backward Compatibility update

You can access the full list using the 360 PS3 BC link at the top of the page.

Key

  • new The game is new to this list because I have purchased or borrowed it or it has been added to the Xbox 360 BC list.
  • updated The game was already on my list but its status has changed.

 

Backwards Compatibility Lists

 

 

PlayStation 3 logo

PlayStation 3 (PS3) 60Gb PAL:

No known issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
new Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets SLES 51192   2.52
new Sly Raccoon SCES 50917   2.52

PlayStation 3 Backward Compatibility update

A small update regarding a couple of games I had not listed before and one which stops working a short period into the game. You can access the full list using the 360 PS3 BC link at the top of the page.

Key

  • new The game is new to this list because I have purchased or borrowed it or it has been added to the Xbox 360 BC list.
  • updated The game was already on my list but its status has changed.

 

Backwards Compatibility Lists

 

 

PlayStation 3 logo

PlayStation 3 (PS3) 60Gb PAL:

No known issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
new Viewtiful Joe 2 SLES 52868   2.42

 

Should play on PLAYSTATION®3 with some minor issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
new Killzone
Very minor audio distortion during pre-rendered sequences.
SCES 52004 widescreen 2.50

 

Not Compatible with PlayStation 3

Title Product Code Widescreen System
updated Aeon Flux
Controller stops functioning inside the game after a certain time after a certain point in the first, non-training, level. PS button and menu still work.
SLES 53956 widescreen 2.50

PlayStation 3 / Xbox 360 Backwards Compatibility Update

My complete BC list.

 

 

Key

  • new The game is new to this list because I have purchased or borrowed it or it has been added to the Xbox 360 BC list.
  • updated The game was already on my list but its status has changed.

 

Backwards Compatibility Lists

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Xbox 360

 

No known issues

Title Widescreen Tested
new BLiNX 2: Matters of Time & Space   Sep 2008
new The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King   Sep 2008

Should play on Xbox 360 with minor issues

Title Widescreen Tested
new BLiNX: The Time Sweeper
Ironically, seems to run a little slowly.
  Sep 2008
new The Lord of the Rings: The Third Age
Coming across treasures chests makes the whole screen flash white.
  Sep 2008

 

Should play on Xbox 360 with noticeable issues

Title Widescreen Tested
new Blood Omen 2: The Legacy of Kain Series
Game does not run in widescreen as it should.
  Sep 2008
new Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
Game does not run in widescreen as it should.
  Sep 2008

 

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PlayStation 3 (PS3)

Note: this is a list of games tested by me and is not entirely in tune with the official list which tends to be more cautious and somewhat behind the latest software version.

No known issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
new Brave: The Search for Spirit Dancer SCES 51635 widescreen 2.42
new Conflict: Desert Storm II SLES 51523 widescreen 2.42
new Disney’s Donald Duck PK SLES 50773   2.42
new Kingdom Hearts SCES 50967   2.42
new Okami SLES 54439   2.42
new Robot Wars: Arenas of Destruction SLES 50572 widescreen 2.42
new Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 SLES 55018   2.42
new Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy SLES 51831 widescreen 2.42

 

Should play on Playstation 3 with minor issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
new Klonoa 2: Lunatea’s Veil
Minor wibbling on some menus (for example, the 50Hz / 60Hz / Test menu) and dialog boxes. Has no effect on gameplay and game looks fantastic.
SCES 50354   2.42
new Kya: Dark Lineage
Minor sound distortion in movies.
SLES 51473 widescreen 2.42
updated Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Occasional minor slowdown, most noticeable during The Fury boss battle.
SLES 82013   2.42
new Xenosaga Episode II
Optical digital output Dolby Digital 5.1 causes audio crackling.
SCES 82034   2.42

 

Should play on Playstation 3 with noticeable issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
new The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
No video (audio only) on deliberately (!) unskippable movie clips.
SLES 51252   2.42

PlayStation 3 / Xbox 360 backwards compatibility update

My complete BC list.

 

 

Key

  • new The game is new to this list because I have purchased or borrowed it or it has been added to the Xbox 360 BC list.
  • updated The game was already on my list but its status has changed.

 

 

 

Backwards Compatibility Lists

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Xbox 360

 

Plays on Xbox 360 with some minor issues

Title Widescreen Tested
new Terminator: Dawn of Date
Game doesn’t run in widescreen and has the image squished into a 4:3 area in the middle of the display. Opening movie has occasional sound glitches. Frame-rate occasionally stutters. Heat-haze effects are incorrectly rendered on top of everything else including the HUD. I also wonder what the ugliest lead character in video-game history is; I vote for Kyle Reese.
  August 2008

 

 

 

 

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PlayStation 3 (PS3)

Note: this is a list of games tested by me and is not entirely in tune with the official list which tends to be more cautious and somewhat behind the latest software version.

No known issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
new Burnout Dominator SLES 54681 widescreen 2.42
new Ford vs Chevy SLES 53698 widescreen 2.42
new GunGrave: Over Dose SLES 52941   2.42
new Haven: Call of the King SLES 51209   2.42
new James Bond in… Agent Under Fire SLES 50539   2.42
new World Super Police SLES 54080   2.42

 

Should play on Playstation 3 with minor issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
new Ford Street Racing
Dolby ProLogic II audio option causes crackling in-game
SLES 53639 widescreen 2.42
new GunGrave
Audio stuttering during pre-Start movie (no obvious damage to disc) but not during in-game movies. Slowdown in game but everything remains playable and looks great.
SLES 51236   2.42

PlayStation 3 / Xbox 360 backwards compatibility update

My complete BC list.

 

 

Key

  • new The game is new to this list because I have purchased or borrowed it or it has been added to the Xbox 360 BC list.
  • updated The game was already on my list but its status has changed.

 

 

 

Backwards Compatibility Lists

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Xbox 360

 

Plays on Xbox 360 with some minor issues

Title Widescreen Tested
new Terminator: Dawn of Date
Game doesn’t run in widescreen and has the image squished into a 4:3 area in the middle of the display. Opening movie has occasional sound glitches. Frame-rate occasionally stutters. Heat-haze effects are incorrectly rendered on top of everything else including the HUD. I also wonder what the ugliest lead character in video-game history is; I vote for Kyle Reese.
  August 2008

 

 

 

 

PlayStation 3 logo

PlayStation 3 (PS3)

Note: this is a list of games tested by me and is not entirely in tune with the official list which tends to be more cautious and somewhat behind the latest software version.

No known issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
new Burnout Dominator SLES 54681 widescreen 2.42
new Ford vs Chevy SLES 53698 widescreen 2.42
new GunGrave: Over Dose SLES 52941   2.42
new Haven: Call of the King SLES 51209   2.42
new James Bond in… Agent Under Fire SLES 50539   2.42
new World Super Police SLES 54080   2.42

 

Should play on Playstation 3 with minor issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
new Ford Street Racing
Dolby ProLogic II audio option causes crackling in-game
SLES 53639 widescreen 2.42
new GunGrave
Audio stuttering during pre-Start movie (no obvious damage to disc) but not during in-game movies. Slowdown in game but everything remains playable and looks great.
SLES 51236   2.42

PlayStation 3 Firmware 2.42 Backwards Compatibility update

My complete BC list.

I’m not sure whether it’s just me but a retest of most of my PlayStation 2 games with issues has yielded a couple of improvements.

 

Key

  • new The game is new to this list because I have purchased or borrowed it or it has been added to the Xbox 360 BC list.
  • updated The game was already on my list but its status has changed.

 

Backwards Compatibility Lists 

 

PlayStation 3 logo

PlayStation 3 (PS3)

Note: this is a list of games tested by me and is not entirely in tune with the official list which tends to be more cautious and somewhat behind the latest software version.

No known issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
updated Sled Storm SLES 50683 widescreen 2.42
updated The Mark of Kri SCES 51164   2.42

Should play on PlayStation 3 with minor issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
updated Turok: Evolution
Minor frame-rate issues.
SLES 50479   2.42

 

Should play on Playstation 3 with noticeable issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
updated Gumball 3000
Selecting a car is a somewhat hit or miss affair and causes regular crashes. However, I have managed to get all the way into the playable part of the game on several occasions with different classes of vehicle in both Single Race and Gumball 3000. Once playing, there doesn’t seem to be any issues.
SLES 50984   2.42

Indiana Jones and The Emperor’s Tomb Xbox 360 Backward Compatibility update

My complete BC list.

 

Just got to The Streets of Hong Kong motorcycle chase levels on Indiana Jones and The Emperor’s Tomb and the game really is struggling so I’ve moved this game to the noticeable issues list. Fortunately, these are super easy levels in the game and it doesn’t badly affect the survivability of the player.

 

Key

  • new The game is new to this list because I have purchased or borrowed it or it has been added to the Xbox 360 BC list.
  • updated The game was already on my list but its status has changed.

 

Backwards Compatibility Lists 

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Xbox 360

 

Plays on Xbox 360 with some noticeable issues

Title Widescreen Tested
updated Indiana Jones and The Emperor’s Tomb
Badly corrupted music in main menu, mildly corrupted music during game. Occasional but noticeable frame rate drops during The Streets of Hong Kong levels.
  July 2008

PlayStation 3 / Xbox 360 backwards compatibility update

My complete BC list.

 

 

Key

  • new The game is new to this list because I have purchased or borrowed it or it has been added to the Xbox 360 BC list.
  • updated The game was already on my list but its status has changed.

 

Backwards Compatibility Lists 

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Xbox 360

No known issues

Title Widescreen Tested
new Hulk   July 2008
new Richard Burns Rally
There is a spectacularly ugly font used throughout but, astonishingly, that was clearly deliberate.
  July 2008
new Star Wars Jedi Starfighter   July 2008
new The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction widescreen July 2008

 

Plays on Xbox 360 with some minor issues

Title Widescreen Tested
new Indiana Jones and The Emperor’s Tomb
Badly corrupted music in main menu, mildly corrupted music during game.
  July 2008

 

Not Compatible

Title Widescreen Tested
new The Matrix: Path of Neo widescreen July 2008

 

 

 

 

PlayStation 3 logo

PlayStation 3 (PS3)

Note: this is a list of games tested by me and is not entirely in tune with the official list which tends to be more cautious and somewhat behind the latest software version.

No known issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
new Devil May Cry 2 Special Edition SLES 82011
SLES 82012
  2.41
new Devil May Cry 3 Special Edition SLES 54186   2.41
new Dirge of Cerberus: Final Fantasy VII SLES 54185   2.41
new Rogue Galaxy SCES 54552   2.41
new SBK-07: Superbike World Championship SLES 54705   2.41
new Sly 2: Band of Thieves SCES 52529   2.41
new Sly 3: Honour Among Thieves SCES 53409   2.41
new Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror SCES 54794 widescreen 2.41

 

Should play on Playstation 3 with minor issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
new Dragon Quest™ – The Journey of the Cursed King™
Minor sound pops when traversing menus and at other times
SLES 53974 widescreen 2.41

Backwards Compatibility update; MotoGP 3: Official Game of MotoGP

My complete BC list.

Just borrowed Namco’s MotoGP 3.

 

Key

  • new The game is new to this list because I have purchased or borrowed it or it has been added to the Xbox 360 BC list.
  • updated The game was already on my list but its status has changed.

 

Backwards Compatibility Lists 

PlayStation 3 logo

PlayStation 3 (PS3)

Note: this is a list of games tested by me and is not entirely in tune with the official list which tends to be more cautious and somewhat behind the latest software version.

Should play on PLAYSTATION®3 with some minor issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
new MotoGP 3: Official Game of MotoGP
Flashing graphical corruption on upper half of screen on some cameras during replay. It doesn’t seem to occur during gameplay.
SCES 50982 widescreen 2.36

Backwards Compatibility update; Shadow of the Colossus

My complete BC list.

Just bought Shadow of the Colossus. No known issues for this classic game.

 

Key

  • new The game is new to this list because I have purchased or borrowed it or it has been added to the Xbox 360 BC list.
  • updated The game was already on my list but its status has changed.

 

Backwards Compatibility Lists 

PlayStation 3 logo

PlayStation 3 (PS3)

Note: this is a list of games tested by me and is not entirely in tune with the official list which tends to be more cautious and somewhat behind the latest software version.

No known issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
new Shadow of the Colossus SCES 53326 widescreen:PS 2.36

Backwards Compatibility update for Xbox 360

My complete BC list.

Just bought Justice League: Heroes. Noticeable issues.

 

 

Key

  • new The game is new to this list because I have purchased or borrowed it or it has been added to the Xbox 360 BC list.
  • updated The game was already on my list but its status has changed.

 

Backwards Compatibility Lists 

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Xbox 360

Plays on Xbox 360 with some noticeable issues

Title Widescreen Tested
new Justice League: Heroes
Intermittent sound on attract screen. Frame rate occasionally slows down a lot but it’s fine in-between and game remains playable.
widescreen May 2008

Xbox 360 Burnout Backwards Compatibility update

My complete BC list.

Just bought Burnout for Xbox and have updated my list to include it. Noticeable issues, sadly.

 

 

Key

  • new The game is new to this list because I have purchased or borrowed it or it has been added to the Xbox 360 BC list.
  • updated The game was already on my list but its status has changed.

 

Backwards Compatibility Lists 

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Xbox 360

Plays on Xbox 360 with some noticeable issues

Title Widescreen Tested
new Burnout
Intermittent or no player sound and other audio distortions. Gameplay and graphics are unaffected and remains fun.
widescreen Mar 2008

PlayStation 3 v2.10 backwards compatibility update

My complete BC list.

Sony have updated their backwards compatibility capability with the 2.10 firmware release and a number of games that were previously non-compatible have demonstrated progress. Some, notably the Jak and Daxter games I owned, have jumped right to playable or no problems status whereas the others will now load but not get into the game. Good to see some forward momentum on this issue.

As they are clearly continuing to work on BC, I wonder if they’ll ape Microsoft and offer PS2 games for download at some point. I would like to see a PSP emulator released by them, how cool would that be if the PS3 could play games from all Sony’s game consoles?

Also

It turns out that a PlayStation 2 title I had placed in noticeable issues was, in fact, performing exactly the same as on PlayStation 3 as it did on PS2. It appears to be that the PAL version of the game is, simply, kinda ugly with giant pixels everywhere. So I’ve moved Herdy Gerdy and the newly acquired (and thoroughly brilliant) Ico into the No known issues table.

 

Key

  • new The game is new to this list because I have purchased or borrowed it or it has been added to the Xbox 360 BC list.
  • updated The game was already on my list but its status has changed.

 

Backwards Compatibility Lists 

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Xbox 360

No known issues

Title Widescreen Tested
new Burnout 2: Point of Impact widescreen Dec 2007
new Constantine   Dec 2007

 

Plays on Xbox 360 with some minor issues

Title Widescreen Tested
new Van Helsing
Some audio stuttering in opening movie. Flickering black bar on main menu but it doesn’t obscure anything important. Game plays fine and looks really nice.
  Dec 2007

 

Plays on Xbox 360 with some noticeable issues

Title Widescreen Tested

 

Not Compatible

Title Widescreen Tested
new Hunter: The Reckoning PAL unknown Dec 2007

 

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PlayStation 3 (PS3)

Note: this is a list of games tested by me and is not entirely in tune with the official list which tends to be more cautious and somewhat behind the latest software version.

No known issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
updated Herdy Gerdy
Ugly PAL version but looks the same on PS3 as on PS2.
SLES 50751   2.0
new Ico SCES 50760   2.10
updated Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy
Cut-scenes and gameplay runs smoothly in 60Hz, gameplay looks significantly better but runs slightly less smoothly in 50Hz.
SCES 50361 widescreen 2.10
updated WRC: Rally Evolved SCES 53247 widescreen 2.10

 

Should play on PLAYSTATION®3 with some minor issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
updated Jak X
Game took about a billion years to create a new profile, so long that I started pushing every button on the controller. Whether that made a difference or not I don’t know. Once over that hump the game played and saved fine.
SCES 53286 widescreen:PS 2.10
updated WRC II Extreme
Small amount of left and right of screen cut off on widescreen displays. Saved replays don’t seem to work properly (like the Gran Turismo games) but immediate post-stage replays do. Game plays fine, runs smooth and looks and sounds great. Game remains super rock hard.
SCES 50934 widescreen 2.10

 

Should play on PLAYSTATION®3 with noticeable issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
updated CART Fury Championship Racing
All movies squished into top half of display, brilliantly. Game plays fine.
SLES 50267   2.10
updated Orphen: Scion of Sorcery
Movies are busted with audio and video breakup and then they quickly skip to the end. You see none of them. Speech during in-engine cut-scenes repeats like all the characters have really bad stutters and sometimes skips. Graphics look outstanding and game can be played.
SLES 50062   2.10
updated Turok: Evolution
Flickering and pausing graphics (game looks like it has crashed but has not, wait a while and it continues) consistently during in-engine cut-scenes, pause menu and inter-level saving and occasionally during gameplay. Largely the game plays smoothly.
SLES 50479   2.10

 

Not Compatible

Title Product Code Widescreen System
updated Gumball 3000
Sometimes no sound and crashes when selecting car.
SLES 50984   2.10
updated Rally Fusion: Race of Champions
Game menu loads but crashes when loading a race.
SLES 50997   2.10
updated Summoner 2
Overture cut-scene plays then game crashes with first in-engine cut-scene “Entering the Tempest.”
SLES 51441   2.10
updated TD: Overdrive (Test Drive: Overdrive: The Brotherhood of Speed)
Intro movies and Pong loading game now work but game itself never actually loads.
SLES 50778   2.10

PlayStation 3 backwards compatibility update: v2.01

Seeing as Sony’s 40Gb PlayStation 3 dumped backwards compatibility like a diseased potato, I presumed that the firmware updates would no longer herald greater BC. However, I went through my non-compatible PS2 library and found that one had changed status and was now playable. Good news!

Links

My full BC list.

Backwards Compatibility Update

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Should play on PLAYSTATION®3 with some minor issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
updated Headhunter: Redemption
Very minor frame rate problems in movies and in gameplay but nothing that adversely affects the game.
SLES 51682 2.01

Xbox Originals: Good news on Xbox 360 backwards compatibility

Microsoft announced that their December 4th, 2007, Dashboard update will include the ability to download and play original Xbox titles.

As Xbox Live Marketplace doesn’t really exist in Europe yet and the page linked previously doesn’t exist on the UK Xbox site, it is unclear whether the same titles will be available for download or at all in Europe. That’s the moaning out of the way.

What this really means is that Microsoft’s launch promise that nearly every Xbox game would become backwards compatible was clearly not just hyperbole. Microsoft have come up with this excellent way of monetising their existing Xbox software library and so have the incentive to continue working on the patches required to get an original Xbox game working. These patches will not only work for the downloaded originals but also for the original Xbox retail unit (game in a box).

This is great news for those of us with libraries of Xbox games and a desire to check out the older games on the platform for a reasonable price. The Xbox Originals will be available to download at 1200 Microsoft Points (I hate these things, what’s wrong with real money?) and that works out at £10.20 for us in the UK. And, yes, that is rather more expensive than the $14.99 or £7.25 (at today’s exchange rate) that our American friends will pay. However, because the patches also apply to the original retail unit, it does mean that we can pick up those. Generally, you can find these second-hand on eBay or cex or sometimes brand-new, for less, sometimes a lot less, than £10.20. For example, prices on cex start at ten pence and that includes postage and packing! (Note: you need to spend a minimum of £2 at cex. I think we can manage that.)

Microsoft followed up this good news with a batch of new Xbox originals that now work on 360. I hope they continue releasing at a good pace.

Slimm Says

After Sony dropped the BC ball by removing backwards compatibility from the PlayStation 3 brand, it’s nice to see Microsoft pick it up and run with it. I look forward to playing my entire library of unfinished Xbox original games on the 360.

Links

Xbox Live is Five / Xbox Originals press release

Xbox 360 backwards compatibility November 2007 update

Microsoft have just released a new set of Xbox 360 patches to add eighty-three games to their backwards compatibility capability. I have updated my personal 360 BC list accordingly.

Backwards Compatibility Updates

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No known issues

Title Widescreen System
updated Breakdown   Nov 2007
new Star Wars Episode III: The Revenge of the Sith   Nov 2007
updated Test Drive Overdrive: The Brotherhood of Speed
Minor frame rate problems are present on original Xbox as is poor sound quality. Initial race loading took forever.
widescreen Nov 2007

 

Plays on Xbox 360 with some minor issues

Title Widescreen System
updated Goldeneye: Rogue Agent
Menu screens are shown and pre-rendered movies play at incorrect aspect ratio on HD displays. Neither issues affect gameplay.
widescreen Nov 2007
updated Racing Evoluzione
aka Apex
Game plays fine and looks fantastic (despite lack of widescreen) but there are some audio drop-outs on certain track / car combinations. While only mildly distracting during the race itself, it can be almost unbearable during replays. Again, please note, this only happens on certain track / car combinations and doesn’t affect gameplay.
  Nov 2007

Xbox 360 / PlayStation 3 Backward Compatibility Library Update

I have been able to test the following games and add their status to my backward compatibility (BC) list:

 

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No known issues

Title Widescreen System
new Call of Duty: Finest Hour widescreen 2.0.5766.0
new Call of Duty: The Big Red One
Audio, bass aside, is very quiet.
widescreen 2.0.5766.0
new James Cameron’s Dark Angel   2.0.5766.0

 

Plays on Xbox 360 with some minor issues

Title Widescreen System
new Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Game plays fine but audio is extremely quiet and balanced incorrectly in surround sound. For example, all voices come out of the centre and rear-left speaker!
  2.0.5766.0
new Medal of Honor: European Assault
Movies stutter distractingly as levels are loaded in background. It’s also pig-ugly unlike most Xbox games which look really nice on the 360.
widescreen 2.0.5766.0

 

Plays on Xbox 360 with some noticeable issues

Title Widescreen System
new Oddworld: Munch’s Oddysee
Almost none of the sound effects work in game including all voices of yourself (Abe or Munch) and all character’s you interact with. As there are no subtitles in the game either, this renders the game not worth playing. The overall sound level is also extremely low.
  2.0.5766.0

 

Not Compatible

Title Widescreen System

 

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No known issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
new Ace Combat: Distant Thunder
aka Ace Combat 4: Shattered Skies
SCES 50410 widescreen 1.93
new Ace Combat: Squadron Leader
aka Ace Combat 5: The Unsung War
SCES 52424 widescreen 1.93
new Crimson Tears SLES 52534   1.93
new Extermination SCES 50240   1.93
new Underworld: The Eternal War SLES 52109   1.93

 

Should play on PLAYSTATION®3 with some minor issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System
new The Mark of Kri
Game plays and looks great but some audio distortion on narration.
SCES 51164   1.93

 

Should play on PLAYSTATION®3 with noticeable issues

Title Product Code Widescreen System

 

Not Compatible

Title Product Code Widescreen System
new Headhunter: Redemption SLES 51682   1.93

Sony announce ‘We’re making the PlayStation 3 worse. Now give us your money.’

From the official 40GB PlayStation 3 Sony Computer Entertainment Europe announcement:

The new model is no longer backwards compatible with PlayStation®2 titles, reflecting both the reduced emphasis placed on this feature amongst later purchasers of PS3, as well as the availability of a more extensive line-up of PS3 specific titles (a total of 65 titles across all genres by Christmas).

Isn’t that bizarre? I was under the impression that backwards compatibility was currently being executed via software emulation. This seemed to be borne out by the fact that the state of backwards compatibility changes with firmware releases (system updates).

For me backwards compatibility is important. For many it is not. So while the above seems a fair statement, it seems unfair and pretty stupid to remove a feature just because they can.

I note that few choose to use the tilt sensitive functions of the Sixaxis controller. As Sony say, that feature has “reduced emphasis” among purchasers of PS3’s. Does this mean that this feature will too be removed in a future hardware iteration?

I suspect that the vast majority of PS3’s are not connected to 5.1 surround sound amps and HD displays via HDMI. Will those be removed in a future iteration?

The removal of backward compatibility seems a bafflingly arbitrary decision.

According to the remainder of the press release, 2 USB ports, a card reader, 20GB of hard disk space and backwards compatibility cost the best part of €100. Yeah.

While you can nip down PC World and purchase a USB hub and a card reader if you need them for around €40 you cannot go and purchase backwards compatibility.

Sony really seem to be flailing around at the PlayStation division at this time. The announcement of a reduction in price (and let’s not forget that the standard PS3 has just dropped €100 in price) should be a cause for celebration. Instead Sony have managed to shoot themselves in the foot for the umpteenth time regarding PlayStation 3 and issue a press release detailing how their HD entertainment center is getting worse, not being improved.

Slimm Says

Sony should have just dropped the price of the standard PS3. Nothing else. This is a decision only an accountant would make, not a visionary or lover of the brand or videogames. Sony’s press relations division are idiots (we knew that anyway) and getting your company run by accountants is the beginning of the end. At this rate, PlayStation 3 will be the swansong of Sony as an videogame giant.

Xbox 360 / PlayStation 3 backwards compatibility update

Updated BC list.

Several games added to the BC list for both consoles.

Version 1.93 of the PlayStation 3 software provides identical backwards compatibility to version 1.92.

 

 

 

Key

  • new The game is new to this list because I have purchased or borrowed it or it has been added to the Xbox 360 BC list.
  • new The game was already on my list but its status has changed.

Where available, the game titles link to my review and report widescreen support.

My consoles are connected to an Onkyo SR674 via HDMI which is connected to a Samsung R87 via HDMI. The 360 is run in 720p and the PS3 in 1080i.

 

 

 

Xbox 360 logo

No known issues

  • newnot widescreen Alias – 2.0.5766.0

Plays on Xbox 360 with some minor issues

  • newnot widescreen Rogue Ops – 2.0.5766.0
    Videos play with occasional jerky sound and video (disc looks clean).

Plays on Xbox 360 with some noticeable issues

  • newwidescreen Darkwatch – 2.0.5766.0
    Minor stuttering in movies not present on original Xbox. Bizarrely, this doesn’t play in widescreen on the 360 despite doing so on original Xbox. That said, even though I’ve placed this in noticeable issues, the game plays fine.

Not Compatible

  • newnot widescreen Breakdown – 2.0.5766.0
    Though listed as compatible, game freezes whenever you press the A button after you get out of bed.
  • newwidescreen Goldeneye: Rogue Agent – 2.0.5766.0
  • newnot widescreen Oddworld: Stranger’s Wrath – 2.0.5766.0

 

 

 

PlayStation 3 logo

No known issues

  • newwidescreen Aeon Flux – SLES 53956 – 1.93
  • newnot widescreen Alter Echo – SLES 51670 – 1.93
  • newwidescreen God of War – SCES 53133 – 1.93
  • newwidescreen God of War II – SCES 54206 – 1.93
  • newnot widescreen James Bond 007 in… Agent Under Fire – SLES 50539 – 1.93
  • newnot widescreen Maximo – SLES 50703 – 1.93
  • newnot widescreen Reign of Fire – SLES 50873 – 1.93
  • newnot widescreen Silpheed: The Lost Planet – SLES 50193 – 1.93
  • newnot widescreen Trapt – SLES 53824 – 1.93
  • newnot widescreen Viewtiful Joe – SLES 52678 – 1.93

Should play on PLAYSTATION®3 with some minor issues

  • newnot widescreen Crimson Sea 2 – SLES 52556 – 1.93
    De-interlacing artefacts make game look kinda blurry but it runs and plays nice and smoothly.

Not Compatible

  • newnot widescreen Orphen: Scion of Sorcery – SLES 50062 – 1.93

Xbox 360 BC update: Project Zero is not Fatal Frame (even though it is) and hands-on with 360 BC

This is an update to my personal 360 / PS3 BC list.

Xbox 360

Turns out that Project Zero and Fatal Frame, despite being the same game, are not equally backwards compatible. Project Zero is not compatible with Xbox 360.

As a bizarre (hehe) side-note, I also played Project Gotham Racing 2 on the 360 and noted with some amusement that the broken attract / demonstration replays that affect PlayStation’s Gran Turismo 3 and 4 on PlayStation 3 are also present here and so feature cars ploughing into the scenery with bizarre abandon after a few corners.

It also turns out that 360 BC isn’t a case of yes or no. Unlike the PlayStation BC list which rates the games one, two or three stars to indicate how many issues you will notice, the 360 BC list simply says that a game is compatible or not. However, now that I have had a chance to try it out first-hand it turns out that 360 BC also varies in quality. Therefore I have tested my Xbox games and rated them in the same way as the PlayStation games with no, minor or noticeable issues. As a rule, however, you should avoid trying the demos or videos that come on some Xbox game discs as they frequently crash to Dashboard.

On a positive note, it should be mentioned that playing an original Xbox game on the 360 yields notably clearer graphics with more accurate colours and, brilliantly, is much quieter than the original Xbox (or, bizarrely, playing 360 games on 360).

Of all the titles tested, Black stood out by looking absolutely amazing.

Key

new The game is new to this list because I have purchased or borrowed it or it has been added to the Xbox 360 BC list.

new The game was already on my list but its status has changed.

Where available, the game titles link to my review.

Xbox 360 logo

Xbox on Xbox 360

No known issues

  • widescreen Black – 2.0.5766.0
  • widescreen Burnout 3: Takedown – 2.0.5766.0
  • not widescreen Brute Force – 2.0.5766.0
  • not widescreen Mechassault 2: LoneWolf – 2.0.5766.0
  • widescreen Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction – 2.0.5766.0
  • widescreen Panzer Dragoon Orta – 2.0.5766.0
  • widescreen Quantum Redshift – 2.0.5766.0
  • widescreen Sega GT 2002 – 2.0.5766.0
  • widescreen Sega GT Online – 2.0.5766.0
  • widescreen Speed Kings – 2.0.5766.0
  • not widescreen Spider-Man 2 – 2.0.5766.0

Plays on Xbox 360 with some minor issues

  • newwidescreen Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge – 2.0.5766.0
    Minor frame rate problems not present on original Xbox.
  • newwidescreen Forza Motorsport – 2.0.5766.0
    Minor frame rate problems worse than original Xbox which can be significantly reduced by turning the rear-view mirror off.
  • newnot widescreen Jet Set Radio Future – 2.0.5766.0
    Some mild flickering and corrupt graphics on map and when using boost.
  • newnot widescreen Project Gotham Racing – 2.0.5766.0
    Minor frame rate problems not present on original Xbox which can be significantly reduced by turning the rear-view mirror off.
  • newnot widescreen Halo – 2.0.5766.0
    Minor frame rate problems not present on original Xbox.
  • newnot widescreen SSX 3 – 2.0.5766.0
    Videos extremely jerky. Game plays fine.

Plays on Xbox 360 with some noticeable issues

  • newwidescreen Project Gotham Racing 2 – 2.0.5766.0
    Noticeable frame rate problems at specific areas of tracks, minor frame rate problems helped slightly by turning off rear view mirror, some sound drop-out, opening movie plays slightly jerkily and demonstration replays don’t work correctly after a couple of corners.
  • newwidescreen True Crime: Streets of LA – 2.0.5766.0
    Low frame rate while outdoors (ie, virtually the entire game) make the game verge on unplayable.

Not Compatible

  • new Project Zero

Backwards Compatibility BC Update 1.92 for PlayStation 3 PS3

This is an update to my personal 360 / PS3 BC list.

PS3

Sony have updated their PlayStation 3 system software to version 1.92. It appears to have no backward compatibility updates but I’ve added a couple of new titles to my library and updated my personal compatibility list accordingly. Also, all PlayStation 2 games now have a note as to whether they support widescreen (widescreen) or not (not widescreen).

Key

new The game is new to this list because I have purchased or borrowed it or it has been added to the Xbox 360 BC list.

new The game was already on my list but its status has changed.

Where available, the game titles link to my review.

PlayStation 3 logo

PlayStation / PlayStation 2 on PlayStation 3

No known issues

  • newwidescreen:PS 24: The Game – SCES 53358 – 1.9
  • newnot widescreen Medal of Honor Frontline – SLES 50684 – 1.92
  • newnot widescreen Medal of Honor: Rising Sun – SLES 51873 – 1.92

Not Compatible

  • newnot widescreen CART FURY Championship Racing – SLES 50267 – 1.92
  • newnot widescreen Gumball 3000 – SLES 50984 – 1.92
  • newwidescreen Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy – SCES 50361 – 1.92
  • newwidescreen:PS Jak X – SCES 53286 – 1.92
  • newnot widescreen Rally Fusion – SLES 50997 – 1.92
  • newnot widescreen Summoner 2 – SLES 51141 – 1.92
  • newnot widescreen TD: Overdrive (Test Drive: Overdrive: The Brotherhood of Speed) – SLES 50778 – 1.92
  • newnot widescreen Turok: Evolution – SLES 50479 – 1.92
  • newwidescreen WRC II Extreme (completed) – SCES 50934 – 1.92

Backwards Compatibility BC update for Xbox 360 / PlayStation 3

As an owner of both Xbox and PlayStation 2 consoles and many games for each, the pre-release news that both Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 would be backwards compatible was good news indeed.

As part of my ongoing quest to experience Xbox and PlayStation 2 games that are now available for just a couple of pounds, I have extended my library by a few titles again and updated my personal compatibility list accordingly.

My List

So here is a summary and list of my games on Xbox and PlayStation 2 and their compatibility with Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Where available, the game titles link to my review.

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Backwards Compatibility update for Xbox 360 / PS3 v1.90

As an owner of both Xbox and PlayStation 2 consoles and many games for each, the pre-release news that both Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 would be backwards compatible was good news indeed.

As part of my ongoing quest to experience Xbox and PlayStation 2 games that are now available for just a couple of pounds, I have extended my library by a few titles again and updated my personal compatibility list accordingly.

PS3

Also Sony have released version 1.9 of their system software so this list includes some retests and I was delighted see a mover in the form of Downforce which has moved from incompatible to working with no issues.

For other backwards compatibility related goodness, version 1.9 includes the ability to switch between Normal and Fullscreen scaling inside a legacy game. This means that you do not have to switch your television between 4:3 and 16:9 anymore when playing non-widescreen and widescreen legacy games respectively.

Also, at last, you can now eject discs without getting fingerprints on your beautiful PS3 as Sony have added an Eject Disc option to the Triangle Options on an inserted disc. Terrific.

My List

So here is a summary and list of my games on Xbox and PlayStation 2 and their compatibility with Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Where available, the game titles link to my review.

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Backwards Compatibility update for Xbox 360 (July 2007)

Xbox 360 logo
PlayStation 3 logo

As an owner of both Xbox and PlayStation 2 consoles and many games for each, the pre-release news that both Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 would be backwards compatible was good news indeed.

Xbox 360

Wow! Microsoft are still working on BC. Good news. This update includes 61 news titles overall. The big news is the first two Project Gotham Racing titles. For my collection there are three new titles now working (MechAssault was also listed on their April 2007 update but is marked as new to reflect the July list) and two updated. This brings the balance between compatible and not compatible to about 50-50.

My List

So here is a summary and list of my games on Xbox and PlayStation 2 and their compatibility with Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Where available, the game titles link to my review.

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Backwards Compatibility update for Xbox 360 (April 2007) and PlayStation 3 (v1.82)

Xbox 360 logo
PlayStation 3 logo

As an owner of both Xbox and PlayStation 2 consoles and many games for each, the pre-release news that both Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 would be backwards compatible was good news indeed.

Xbox 360

I made a small mistake in my Xbox 360 list or I just missed that Mech Assault 2 was now backward compatible. Anyways, I’ve moved it across. I also received Spider-Man 2 and have added that to the list also.

PS3

I’ve also bought a load of old games for the PlayStation 2 and they are all included. All of these are marked with new because they are new to my list.

Most curious entry is Gumball 3000 which had been listed as working on PS3 BC lists but is definitely not working on 1.82

My List

So here is a summary and list of my games on Xbox and PlayStation 2 and their compatibility with Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Where available, the game titles link to my review.

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Why Backwards Compatibility Is Important

I’ve made a handful of posts about the backwards compatibility (commonly referred to as BC) features of the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 (PS3). In summary, Microsoft haven’t really bothered and Sony have.

Microsoft’s last BC update was April 2007, three months ago. It is unlikely there will be another update until autumn and that is unlikely to feature much joy for the BC crowd. Only a third of my original Xbox games are listed as working on Xbox 360.

Sony’s last BC update was last week with the 1.82 system software though I haven’t tested my few non-working games again yet. Almost all of my PS2 games work, most of them without noticeable issues. Not only that, they look significantly better and play smoother than they did on my PS2 and, in the case of multi-platform games, usually look sharper and play smoother than the equivalent Xbox version.

Cold Hard Cash

So is BC really important? Yes and here is why. I’m buying old PS2 games. I’ve bought about ten over the past couple of weeks each for a couple of pounds. Some were second-hand, some are new. I haven’t paid for than a fiver for any of them. Even if I’m only contributing a few pounds to Sony’s coffers, that is a few pounds that could have been going on visiting old Xbox games and into Microsoft’s wallet.

While the financial side may seem inconsequential consider that according to www.vgchartz.com there have been 3.57 million PlayStation 3’s sold (by June 2007). Even if my buying generated Sony just a couple of dollars and every PS3 owner did the same Sony would receive a very handy:

$7,140,000

Now Microsoft have sold 10.07 million Xbox 360’s. If the same financial logic is applied to that, it means Microsoft could have squandered:

$20,140,000

You know, that’s getting to be a significant sum of money. Even the fat back pocket of Bill Gates couldn’t object to that.

Warm Cosy Feeling

Not only is there the financial aspect to consider but also the feeling a consumer gets when they feel they are getting a bit of extra value out of their expensive shiny purchase. With each of Sony’s agreeably frequent updates, someone somewhere is getting a better experience with their PS3 than they were before.

It may be in enhanced backward compatibility, it may be in playback of more video formats, it may be in being able to use your old PS2 rumble pad or an PS2 arcade stick, it may be in DVD and PS1 and PS2 video upscaling and smoothing, it may be in industry standard multimedia network connectivity.

In a couple of areas, Sony are simply playing catch-up to Microsoft (network connectivity, for example) but the feeling is one of extra value for the consumer. When updates are released for either console, the consumer feels that the company is still actively working on their behalf and that is a good feeling. At the moment, Sony are releasing updates more frequently and with more significant features. Microsoft updates seem more targeted to tempting consumers to part with more cash. At this rate, I feel Sony will soon leave Microsoft behind in every area, not just backward compatibility.

Now all Sony needs to really drag themselves back into this console generation is a whopping pile of great games. :D

Backwards Compatibility update for PlayStation 3 (v1.80)

Xbox 360 logo
PlayStation 3 logo

As an owner of both Xbox and PlayStation 2 consoles and over twenty games for each, the pre-release news that both Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 would be backwards compatible (in the same brilliant way that PlayStation 2 was fully backwards compatible with PlayStation games) was good news indeed.

PlayStation 3 updated their system firmware to 1.8 this week and, though it isn’t mentioned on their official list of fixes and features, they also improved their backwards compatibility. New games now working for me are “Driving Emotion Type-S”, “GTC Africa” and “Shox”.

However, the most eye-catching thing about the 1.8 update is the addition of upscaling ability for PS1 and PS2 games. PS1 games were previously near unplayable thanks to looking like a mass of mosaics on your screen. Now, while not exactly scaled up to sparkly HD wonder-o-vision, they are much much better looking and entirely playable.

The treat, however, is PS2 games. It seems to be much more than simply line-doubling the PS2 output as the games now have a silky-smooth, crispy-clear appearance in HD super-o-vision. The effect is truly something to behold. Games which looked good on PS2 now look stunning. For example, the details on the cars in “Gran Turismo 3: A-spec” are crystal clear and the bodywork boasts an absence of jaggies. A wonderful gift from Sony. I wonder if Microsoft will respond?

So here is a summary and list of my games on Xbox and PlayStation 2 and their compatibility with Microsoft’s and Sony’s shiny new offerings. I’ve also noted which games I’ve completed and kept for future nostalgia and replay purposes.

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Backwards Compatibility update for PlayStation 3 (v1.7)

Xbox 360 logo
PlayStation 3 logo

As an owner of both Xbox and PlayStation 2 consoles and over twenty games for each, the pre-release news that both Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 would be backwards compatible (in the same brilliant way that PlayStation 2 was fully backwards compatible with PlayStation games) was good news indeed.

PlayStation 3 updated their system firmware to 1.7 this week and, though it isn’t mentioned on their official list of fixes and features, some posts included mention that “Gran Turismo 4” was working on PS3. As the PS3 EU BC list hasn’t yet been updated with reflect the 1.7 software, I decided to run through all my PlayStation 2 games to see what was what and was delighted to find another third of my games were now playable. Yay!

So here is a summary and list of my games on Xbox and PlayStation 2 and their compatibility with Microsoft’s and Sony’s shiny new offerings. I’ve also noted which games I’ve completed and kept for future nostalgia and replay purposes.

Xbox on Xbox 360

36 games: 13 compatible, 23 not compatible.

Compatible

  1. Black
  2. Brute Force (completed)
  3. Burnout 3: Takedown
  4. Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge
  5. Forza Motorsport
  6. Halo 2
  7. Jet Set Radio Future (got as far as I can, I’m stuck on this spider-like boss at the top of some stairs)
  8. Panzer Dragoon Orta
  9. Mercenaries
  10. Quantum Redshift
  11. Sega GT 2002 (completed)
  12. Speed Kings
  13. SSX 3

Not Compatible

  1. Carve
  2. Crash
  3. Crash and Burn
  4. Furious Karting
  5. Galleon
  6. Group S Challenge
  7. Headhunter Redemption
  8. Italian Job: LA Heist
  9. LA Rush
  10. Mechassault 2
  11. Midnight Club 3
  12. Midtown Madness 3
  13. Paris Dakar Rally 2 (completed)
  14. Project Gotham Racing (completed)
  15. Project Gotham Racing 2
  16. Racing Evoluzione
  17. Rallisport Challenge 2 (completed)
  18. Rally Fusion
  19. R:Racing (nostalgia)
  20. Test Drive: Overdrive
  21. Tour De France
  22. Wreckless (completed on normal)
  23. XGRA

PlayStation / PlayStation 2 on PlayStation 3

22 games: 10 no known issues, 4 minor issues, 3 noticeable issues, 7 not compatible
The second part of each list is games tested by me and ten have improved their status to playable.

No known issues to date

  1. Enthusia – Professional Racing
  2. Kaido Racer
  3. Ridge Racer V (completed)
  4. Runabout 3 Neo Age
  5. TT Superbikes
  1. Noble Racing new
  2. Pro Rally 2002 new
  3. Riding Spirits 2 new (nostalgia)
  4. Tokyo Road Race new
  5. Tourist Trophy new

Should play on PLAYSTATION®3 with some minor issues

  1. Gran Turismo 3 A-spec (almost completed)
  1. Driven to Destruction new (minor frame rate issues)
  2. Gran Turismo 4 new (very minor sound issue in start of opening movie; no 5.1 in opening movie; demonstration replays seem to only sort-of work, the Bentley Speed 8 got stuck in a wall)
  3. Sled Storm (DTS sound option crashes game) new

Should play on PLAYSTATION®3 with noticeable issues

  1. Burnout 2: Point of Impact (partially completed) (cars have some areas, including all tail lights and underneath the car, drawn like white headlights though playability appears to be unaffected)
  2. Grand Prix Challenge new (completed) (now plays at proper speed but massive interlacing artefacts make it extremely ugly)
  3. WRC: Rally Evolved new(occasional frame rate issue but playable)

Not Compatible

  1. CART FURY Championship Racing (confirmed not compatible)
  2. Downforce (confirmed not compatible)
  3. Driving Emotion Type-S (completed) (confirmed not compatibke)
  4. GTC Africa (confirmed not compatible)
  5. Shox (completed) (confirmed not compatible)
  6. Stuntman (completed all but last level) (confirmed not compatible)
  7. WRC II Extreme (completed) (confirmed not compatible)

Conclusion

Xbox 360 manages 36% BC but PlayStation 3 storms back into the lead with 77%. There are now only 3 PlayStation 2 games which I haven’t played not compatible with the PlayStation 3 taking me one step closer to be able to retire my PS2.